Keynes v Hayek

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Speaker(s): Professor George Selgin, Professor Lord Skidelsky, Duncan Weldon, Dr Jamie Whyte Chair: Paul Mason Recorded on 26 July 2011. How do we get out of the financial mess we’re in? Two of the great economic thinkers of the 20th century had sharply contrasting views: John Maynard Keynes believed that governments could create sustainable employment and growth. His contemporary and rival Friedrich Hayek believed that investments have to be based on real savings rather than fiscal stimulus or artificially low interest rates. BBC Radio 4 will be recording a debate between modern day followers of Keynes and Hayek. George Selgin is Professor of Economics at The Terry College of Business, University of Georgia. Selgin is one of the founders of the Modern Free Banking School, which draws its inspiration from the writings of Hayek on the denationalization of money and choice in currency. He has written extensively on free banking, the private supply of money and deflation. George Selgin is the author of The Theory of Free Banking: Money Supply under Competitive Note Issue (1988), Less Than Zero: The Case for a Falling Price Level in a Growing Economy (1997), and Good Money: Birmingham Button Makers, the Royal Mint, and the Beginnings of Modern Coinage (2008). Robert Skidelsky is Emeritus Professor of Political Economy at the University of Warwick. His three-volume biography of the economist John Maynard Keynes (1983, 1992, 2000) received numerous prizes, including the Lionel
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  • beingfunisfun

    YO HAYEK!

  • 2007season

    I can’t believe that, in 2011, they spent 10 minutes adjusting the mikes and volumes. What’s more striking is that intro speeches were read out.

  • youfatstinkypoo

    Should HAVE … should HAVE.

  • BeholdZeus

    I’m afraid this was an incredibly biased audience. Far more Hayekians in the room, as befitting neoliberal LSE. Should of been had in a real public forum.

  • BeholdZeus

    Silgin fails to realise that unregulated markets lead to artificial price fixing - which is what is happening now. And yet he has the cheek to talk about government price controls. What a hypocrite.

  • BeholdZeus

    Many people conveniently forget that market deregulation of the Hayekian variety created the crisis in the first place. Its worth remembering the public debt was not the problem, at least not in the UK; indeed, it was only when the private debt was added to the public balance sheet that the debt became utterly unsustainable. Without targeted government spending there is no chance that the UK economy will grow. That is a Keynesian measure and it is both tried and proven.

  • BeholdZeus

    @Handshaines Wait to see what Hayekian austerity does first: then we’ll see who triumphs!

  • justintempler

    The problem with Duncan Weldon’s dentist is he doesn’t pull out your rotten teeth, he just gives you a shot of Novocaine and a bill so you have to come see him again and again and again.

  • justintempler

    Skidelsky “borrowing” money from people that haven’t even been born yet? How does work?

  • Blkglssjw

    The Keynesians got spanked!!

  • distopiadnb

    To say that Keynes was “asimmetrical” because he focused only on expansionary policy is wrong. Keynes focused on expansionary policy *under conditions of underemployement equilibrium*. Expansion was an anti-cyclical device by definition, not to be relentlessly performed at any time, any place. As soon as private sector investment recovered -and Keynes thought it to be more responsive than what post-Keynesian later argued- monetary restriction was even suggested by him.

  • winterrosscharlton

    Skidelsky you are one of the dumbest individuals i’ve ever seen claim to be an economist. You’d fit right in here at any one of the American Universities.

  • GreatG0dOm

    FYI: Doesn’t really start until 7:29 . I haven’t watched it all yet, but so far just been audio testing and preparation to start.

  • erelpc

    49:28 Wasn’t Keynes also against the National Minimum Wage and labour laws?

  • Joe11Blue

    Honestly the audio need’s work. Great video otherwise.

  • Joe11Blue

    @Handshaines Not a great accomplishment when you actually take the time to read Keynes’s work. Reading it makes a person feel confused when trying to remember how a zipper works again.

  • Joe11Blue

    @johndonnelly100 This is not 100% true, it’s only rumored near his death that was against QE. The only person that would know was Hayek though, as they were working together during this time. The rest of his life he supported short term liquidity injections.

  • bertiethetoupee4

    The LSE has some fab events.

  • johndonnelly100

    Selgin makes a good point on QE about the banks shoring up their balance sheets but we are taking Keynesian fiscal policy here aren’t we? Keynes would not have gone for QE, he wanted fiscal policy. Build infrastructure etc

  • johndonnelly100

    So Hayekians are like auditors; after the battle they come in and kick the dead bodies? Don’t do it again they say!

    Seems like they have little to offer other than do nothing. Granted the Fed and Treasury missed and encouraged the housing bubble and they should be fired for it. But I don’t see where Hayek can get us out of the hole. Hayek-like ECB policies are in action in Spain, Portugal and Greece and it is tough going and contractionary.

  • Handshaines

    Hayek beats Keynes everytime.

  • poseidonVI

    No mention of fractional reserve, no mention of the 1920-21 USA recovery as a result of reducing government spending and the fed not printing money.

  • theatchico

    The audio on bbc analysis lasts only roughly 30 minutes, let us see what has been left…

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